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	<title>Comments on: Metaphysics beyond Psychoanalysis: The Unconscious, Language and Reality after Heidegger and Deleuze</title>
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		<title>By: Taylor Adkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor Adkins</dc:creator>
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		<description>For your paper (Levinas and the war machine), we should workshop this piece. So maybe one suggestion I have is to streamline, if not the Badiou then at least the conflation of Badiou and Laruelle which I don&#039;t seem to understand. I like the ending with Levinas v Heidegger because it ends with the void and the face, i.e. something that directly reminds me of Guattari&#039;s theory of subjectification (black hole/white wall system=the face).

Isn&#039;t that what&#039;s missing here? Doesn&#039;t the Deleuze/Lacan series make little sense without bringing in Guattari? Isn&#039;t Guattari the displaced element in the series...the paradoxical element if you will (even Deleuze&#039;s LoS in 69--his most Lacanian work, if you will--still implies Guattari&#039;s presence--though not total influence no doubt--because the two met a year earlier. In any case, even when you mention &quot;the concealed lust for a pure language, an absolute presencing of human signification, infinitely capable of endowing all activity with meaning. This suppression is signified, paradoxically, by the privileging of a-subjectification, a-signification.&quot;  Aren&#039;t you talking about Guattari, who precisely priviliges these two realms in their positive movements of deterritorialization as catalysts of the possible? But only partly, because Guattari doesn&#039;t have a lust for this pure language...that sounds more like Lacan&#039;s dictum concerning the structure of the unconscious.

I digress, but in any case I think Laruelle should be subtracted...and Deleuze and Guattari should be counterposed against Badiou (axiomatics and diagrammatics) as we have discussed. Furthermore, you say:

&quot;In terms of contemporary theory, Laruelle and Badiou’s anti- or non-philosophy could be said to present a similarly-effective overturning of literary-deconstructive methods — we find a deceptive model of this technique in the work of Derrida, and in a different sense, the work of Deleuze and Guattari.&quot; 

Beyond the false conjunction of Badiou and Laruelle (Badiou ultimately still claims to be a philosopher and to uphold the notion of antiphilosophy which is not reducible or equivalent to non-philosophy), this last statement troubles me, or intrigues me even. 

In what sense is Deleuze and Guattari deceptive, in a way that at least, for you, is not exactly similar to Derrida&#039;s own deception. You do not seem to be claiming D+G perform deconstructive literary techniques: if anything their analyses of literature serve as real vehicles for constructing their concepts. Not a deconstruction of the work, but a reconstruction through philosophy. Is this deceptive?

Or is it because D+G are too flashy? Are they deceptive with their concepts, have they gone through the white wall of signification into the realms of absurdity (truth?). 

I only press the issue because you do something to which I take offense, and I shouldn&#039;t because it&#039;s not personal. But here it is.

You claim an interest in this struggle in psychoanalysis, ultimately Lacan and Deleuze. You do not mention Guattari...except once, the quotation I gave you. So Deleuze is of interest, but Deleuze and Guattari are deceptive. Definitely paradoxical.

Unless, again, we are going to privilege D+R and LoS over Capitalism and Schizophrenia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For your paper (Levinas and the war machine), we should workshop this piece. So maybe one suggestion I have is to streamline, if not the Badiou then at least the conflation of Badiou and Laruelle which I don&#8217;t seem to understand. I like the ending with Levinas v Heidegger because it ends with the void and the face, i.e. something that directly reminds me of Guattari&#8217;s theory of subjectification (black hole/white wall system=the face).</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t that what&#8217;s missing here? Doesn&#8217;t the Deleuze/Lacan series make little sense without bringing in Guattari? Isn&#8217;t Guattari the displaced element in the series&#8230;the paradoxical element if you will (even Deleuze&#8217;s LoS in 69&#8211;his most Lacanian work, if you will&#8211;still implies Guattari&#8217;s presence&#8211;though not total influence no doubt&#8211;because the two met a year earlier. In any case, even when you mention &#8220;the concealed lust for a pure language, an absolute presencing of human signification, infinitely capable of endowing all activity with meaning. This suppression is signified, paradoxically, by the privileging of a-subjectification, a-signification.&#8221;  Aren&#8217;t you talking about Guattari, who precisely priviliges these two realms in their positive movements of deterritorialization as catalysts of the possible? But only partly, because Guattari doesn&#8217;t have a lust for this pure language&#8230;that sounds more like Lacan&#8217;s dictum concerning the structure of the unconscious.</p>
<p>I digress, but in any case I think Laruelle should be subtracted&#8230;and Deleuze and Guattari should be counterposed against Badiou (axiomatics and diagrammatics) as we have discussed. Furthermore, you say:</p>
<p>&#8220;In terms of contemporary theory, Laruelle and Badiou’s anti- or non-philosophy could be said to present a similarly-effective overturning of literary-deconstructive methods — we find a deceptive model of this technique in the work of Derrida, and in a different sense, the work of Deleuze and Guattari.&#8221; </p>
<p>Beyond the false conjunction of Badiou and Laruelle (Badiou ultimately still claims to be a philosopher and to uphold the notion of antiphilosophy which is not reducible or equivalent to non-philosophy), this last statement troubles me, or intrigues me even. </p>
<p>In what sense is Deleuze and Guattari deceptive, in a way that at least, for you, is not exactly similar to Derrida&#8217;s own deception. You do not seem to be claiming D+G perform deconstructive literary techniques: if anything their analyses of literature serve as real vehicles for constructing their concepts. Not a deconstruction of the work, but a reconstruction through philosophy. Is this deceptive?</p>
<p>Or is it because D+G are too flashy? Are they deceptive with their concepts, have they gone through the white wall of signification into the realms of absurdity (truth?). </p>
<p>I only press the issue because you do something to which I take offense, and I shouldn&#8217;t because it&#8217;s not personal. But here it is.</p>
<p>You claim an interest in this struggle in psychoanalysis, ultimately Lacan and Deleuze. You do not mention Guattari&#8230;except once, the quotation I gave you. So Deleuze is of interest, but Deleuze and Guattari are deceptive. Definitely paradoxical.</p>
<p>Unless, again, we are going to privilege D+R and LoS over Capitalism and Schizophrenia.</p>
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