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	<title>Comments on: Nietzsche, Corruption, Exhaustion</title>
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		<title>By: seregaborzov</title>
		<link>http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/12/08/nietzsche-corruption-exhaustion/#comment-2434</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 14:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ye - the philosophical question isn’t really ever synchrony but lives within a diachrony - we must think about it</description>
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		<title>By: Joseph Weissman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Weissman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 22:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that you're forcing us to see the sociopolitical meaning in &lt;i&gt;life's&lt;/i&gt; school of war. This is the 'other' biopolitics, an intoxicated (re)surging of warrior's strength rather than the cool and sober patience of politics, commerce and diplomacy. What I think is interesting is that in Nietzsche, we're actually getting both kinds of biopolitics at once, we're getting bizarre combinations and shameful, incestuous half-breeds, spurring us towards mutant experimentation, pushing every assemblage into all possible combinations and its absolute limit, complete machinic zoophilia. Maybe pretty scary stuff, but it's not eugenics. It is definitely German, though, with that unique mixture of love and madness, of intoxication and sobriety. Germans were the broken modern Greeks, as I suppose we are the exhausted Romans. 

At any rate, the question of the war machine as the active movement of life in its immanent trajectory (or at least inspiring it) I think there may be a complementary reading where we have in the machine an actualizing movement of what is beyond or before life, a patience or breathlessness of the spirit, which then &lt;i&gt;recommences&lt;/i&gt; being in violence and the absolute synchronicity of battle, the war of all against all. War is beyond good and evil; in many ways its necessary because it forces weak elements to become exhausted, to give in, to open up, to disappear. I wonder about it's persistent use as a metaphor in philosophy particularly, a domain apparently obsessed with metaphysical exhaustion and existential transfiguration. 

In other words, the philosophical question isn't really ever synchrony but lives within a diachrony; I think Nietzsche points to this in his analyses of culture. We become corrupt &lt;i&gt;because&lt;/i&gt; we are exhausted. Events are tied together, they communicate but the medium through which they communicate is ambiguous, even unique and subjective. Where are the law-givers of tomorrow? The question of exhaustion raises a pretty strong question or even objection to the post-human project (i.e., wouldn't we then just need a post-post-human order to correct for these mistakes, aren't we just doing the same transcendental thing again.) We are approaching an asymptote of informational complexity in terms of culture and knowledge about reality. We will create A.I. out of a desperate need to catalogue &lt;i&gt;too much&lt;/i&gt; information. Consciousness itself, I want to say, is an exhaustion from over-stimulation, of being a multiplicity there are too many counties heard from to intelligibly consider them all serially; i.e., thinking is about selective forgetting. And this mechanism of forgetting is the most complex mechanism of them all, because &lt;i&gt;it&lt;/i&gt; is the one which leads to corruption, even of our faith itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that you&#8217;re forcing us to see the sociopolitical meaning in <i>life&#8217;s</i> school of war. This is the &#8216;other&#8217; biopolitics, an intoxicated (re)surging of warrior&#8217;s strength rather than the cool and sober patience of politics, commerce and diplomacy. What I think is interesting is that in Nietzsche, we&#8217;re actually getting both kinds of biopolitics at once, we&#8217;re getting bizarre combinations and shameful, incestuous half-breeds, spurring us towards mutant experimentation, pushing every assemblage into all possible combinations and its absolute limit, complete machinic zoophilia. Maybe pretty scary stuff, but it&#8217;s not eugenics. It is definitely German, though, with that unique mixture of love and madness, of intoxication and sobriety. Germans were the broken modern Greeks, as I suppose we are the exhausted Romans. </p>
<p>At any rate, the question of the war machine as the active movement of life in its immanent trajectory (or at least inspiring it) I think there may be a complementary reading where we have in the machine an actualizing movement of what is beyond or before life, a patience or breathlessness of the spirit, which then <i>recommences</i> being in violence and the absolute synchronicity of battle, the war of all against all. War is beyond good and evil; in many ways its necessary because it forces weak elements to become exhausted, to give in, to open up, to disappear. I wonder about it&#8217;s persistent use as a metaphor in philosophy particularly, a domain apparently obsessed with metaphysical exhaustion and existential transfiguration. </p>
<p>In other words, the philosophical question isn&#8217;t really ever synchrony but lives within a diachrony; I think Nietzsche points to this in his analyses of culture. We become corrupt <i>because</i> we are exhausted. Events are tied together, they communicate but the medium through which they communicate is ambiguous, even unique and subjective. Where are the law-givers of tomorrow? The question of exhaustion raises a pretty strong question or even objection to the post-human project (i.e., wouldn&#8217;t we then just need a post-post-human order to correct for these mistakes, aren&#8217;t we just doing the same transcendental thing again.) We are approaching an asymptote of informational complexity in terms of culture and knowledge about reality. We will create A.I. out of a desperate need to catalogue <i>too much</i> information. Consciousness itself, I want to say, is an exhaustion from over-stimulation, of being a multiplicity there are too many counties heard from to intelligibly consider them all serially; i.e., thinking is about selective forgetting. And this mechanism of forgetting is the most complex mechanism of them all, because <i>it</i> is the one which leads to corruption, even of our faith itself.</p>
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