Comments on: Universal Computation and The Laws of Form http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/ refracting theory: politics, cybernetics, philosophy Thu, 07 Jan 2010 13:04:27 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Joseph Weissman http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-3008 Joseph Weissman Fri, 01 May 2009 23:01:47 +0000 http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-3008 Sounds good, buddy. To be honest there's not really that much in here we haven't talked about before, but I agree it's an interesting avenue we've kind of let slide. Sounds good, buddy.

To be honest there’s not really that much in here we haven’t talked about before, but I agree it’s an interesting avenue we’ve kind of let slide.

]]> By: Taylor Adkins http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-2998 Taylor Adkins Tue, 28 Apr 2009 19:10:25 +0000 http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-2998 Joe, I can't believe I haven't read this post before. This is quite a brilliant exposition, I am rather stunned. We need to talk about Spencer-Brown again soon. I'll be in touch. Joe, I can’t believe I haven’t read this post before. This is quite a brilliant exposition, I am rather stunned. We need to talk about Spencer-Brown again soon. I’ll be in touch.

]]> By: Josh W http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-2995 Josh W Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:36:51 +0000 http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-2995 The difference between "the entire scene" and "fidelity" is a complex one; would someone who looks at images very differently, who in fact sees objects where we see patterns spread between objects and vice versa, would he think so highly of holograms? From my understanding of physics, I would say that the "fidelity loss" from loosing a perspective can obscure objects, if the object is only viewable from that perspective, such as a tiny but deep crack in a wall that reveals another view. Maybe one day I'll make a hologram to prove it. The difference between “the entire scene” and “fidelity” is a complex one; would someone who looks at images very differently, who in fact sees objects where we see patterns spread between objects and vice versa, would he think so highly of holograms?

From my understanding of physics, I would say that the “fidelity loss” from loosing a perspective can obscure objects, if the object is only viewable from that perspective, such as a tiny but deep crack in a wall that reveals another view. Maybe one day I’ll make a hologram to prove it.

]]> By: William Soileau http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-2619 William Soileau Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:45:47 +0000 http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-2619 Interesting. I wonder... If it's true, as stated above, that "Any piece of the hologram stores information about the entire scene at a fidelity equal to its optical sensitivity", then what happens when one creates a hologram of a donut, seen perpendicular to its flat plane, looking straight through the hole? Upon examination of that part of the hologram encoding the hole in the torus, that presumably empty space within the ring, does the whole torus ring reveal itself? If so, where is the hole? Or, where is the torus, within the hole? If not, is it enough to say that the donut hole is not part of the hologram? The above description suggests not. I chose a torus precisely because the void is smack in the middle of the otherwise holographic image. This is more than a little bit like contemplating one's navel, but does seem to be an interesting and possibly revealing issue. Interesting. I wonder…

If it’s true, as stated above, that “Any piece of the hologram stores information about the entire scene at a fidelity equal to its optical sensitivity”, then what happens when one creates a hologram of a donut, seen perpendicular to its flat plane, looking straight through the hole?

Upon examination of that part of the hologram encoding the hole in the torus, that presumably empty space within the ring, does the whole torus ring reveal itself?

If so, where is the hole? Or, where is the torus, within the hole?

If not, is it enough to say that the donut hole is not part of the hologram? The above description suggests not. I chose a torus precisely because the void is smack in the middle of the otherwise holographic image.

This is more than a little bit like contemplating one’s navel, but does seem to be an interesting and possibly revealing issue.

]]> By: Bruce W. Hubbard http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-1371 Bruce W. Hubbard Fri, 21 Dec 2007 11:22:33 +0000 http://fractalontology.wordpress.com/2007/11/25/universal-computation-and-the-laws-of-form/#comment-1371 thanks, I find this interesting but for reasons that are doubtless not intended, my bg is science but the interest here is also from current Sociological / Anthro work. "Popular culture' is reflected in the following, but unfortunately not intended..... ". Information processing is a formal operation made abstract only by a reduction in the number of free variables, a projective recording which analyzes from all angles the entropy or information contained in the space. " OK .... And Ronald McDonald has red hair... and yes the sun can look also red!!! WOW. thanks, I find this interesting but for reasons that are doubtless not intended, my bg is science but the interest here is also from current Sociological / Anthro work.

“Popular culture’ is reflected in the following, but unfortunately not intended….. “. Information processing is a formal operation made abstract only by a reduction in the number of free variables, a projective recording which analyzes from all angles the entropy or information contained in the space. ”

OK …. And Ronald McDonald has red hair… and yes the sun can look also red!!!

WOW.

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